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The Federal Vision is Still Heresy - Refuting Federal Vision Heretics Like Doug Wilson, James Jordan, Steve Schlissel, Peter Leithart, Rich Lusk, et al.



The Federal Vision is Still Heresy - Refuting Federal Vision Heretics Like Doug Wilson, James Jordan, Steve Schlissel, Peter Leithart, Rich Lusk, et al.

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Doug Wilson's (Federal Vision) Heresy Refuted on Justification and the Covenant of Works (Norman Shepard and John Piper Refuted Too), by Patrick Hines (Free MP3)

The Federal Vision is Still Heresy, by Patrick Hines (Free MP3

Doug Wilson and Deniers of Sola Fide (Justification By Faith Alone), by Patrick Hines (Free MP3)

More by Patrick Hines Refuting the Federal Vision Heresy, Doug Wilson's Heresy, Etc.

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Doug Wilson: Heretic or Reformer? 1/2 Refuting The Federal Vision Heresy & Heretics, by Brian Schwertley (Free MP3)

Doug Wilson: Heretic or Reformer? 2/2 Refuting The Federal Vision Heresy & Heretics, by Brian Schwertley (Free MP3)

Sola Fide (Justification By Faith Alone), by Patrick Hines (Free MP3)

The Federal Vision's Rejection of Historic Calvinism, Part 1 by Brian Schwertley (Free MP3)

The Federal Vision's Rejection of Historic Calvinism, Part 2 by Brian Schwertley (Free MP3)

Is Doug Wilson Reformed? (1), by Patrick Hines (Free MP3)

James Jordan and Other Federal Vision Heretics (like Doug Wilson), Attack Reformation Teaching and Worship, by Dr. Reg Barrow

Wilson’s Federal Vision is Heresy—Don’t Be Duped by Popular, Internet Apologists! by Sonny Hernandez

Federal Vision (FV) theology is one of the most convoluted and heretical body of teachings that has plagued our day. Many of the so called Federal Visionists have denied the imputation of Christ’s active obedience, gratuitous justification excluding works, perseverance of the saints and total depravity. Baptismal regeneration and a distorted view of election (conditional & changeable) are additional distinctives that have been circulated from within the FV camp. Thus the entire FV movement is heresy. It’s no wonder so many Reformed camps (ex: OPC, PCA, RPCUS, URCNA, PRC) have either rejected or condemned FV as heretical. These denominations have done their homework. Internet fan boys and benighted pastors should do the same.
Acolytes of this movement, like Doug Wilson, should never be given a hand in fellowship, a platform to speak, or any kind of public attention, unless he is being called to repent. Yes, it is true, almost 3 years ago, Wilson wrote an article titled, “Federal Vision No Mas.” But this does not exonerate him for being affiliated with the FV movement. Wilson did not repent for being one of the leading bastions of the FV movement and he never denounced FV as heresy, but instead said, “I would still want affirm everything I signed off on in the Federal Vision statement...” Wilson’s article “Federal Vision No Mas” was only an attempt to lose the label, “Federal Vision.” Consider his own words: “...but I think continuing to use federal vision as a label for any part of what we are trying to do here is only confusing things.”
Like most in the FV camp, Wilson is deceptive in couching his arguments, and will say that he believes in the active obedience of Christ and justification by faith alone. But anyone who has taken the time to read the reports by the PCA, OPC, RPCUS, URCNA and the PRC, or the position statements by the session of the Auburn Ave Presbyterian Church, will know that FV theology teaches that there are two stages of salvation (initial + final or future salvation). In the initial stage, FV heretics will say that sinners are saved by grace alone, though faith alone in Christ alone. But in the final or future salvation stage, they will import the words cooperation, obedience and works. The final salvation stage has certain conditions that men must fulfill. This is a false gospel. The Bible does not say that salvation has two stages. John Otis, author of “Danger in the Camp,” provides an excellent response to the two stage heresy: “This is not Reformed Theology. There is no such thing as initial or final salvation; either one is saved thoroughly at the start or he is not saved at all” (pg. 400).
Therefore, do not be duped by popular, internet apologists into believing that Wilson is a victim of slander or that FV is just a Presbyterian issue. Do your research on this matter. Note to New Calvinists: listening to James White’s so called “Dividing Line” or Jeff Durbin is not research. White and Durbin have offered nothing but sloppy opinions on Doug Wilson’s affiliation with the FV heresy. All of the Reformed denominations that have rejected or condemned FV have scrupulously examined what the Federal Visionists have propagated. Can you say the same?

- Doug Wilson’s Federal Vision is Heresy—Don’t Be Duped by Popular, Internet Apologists! The short video near the bottom of the page at "Doug Wilson’s Federal Vision is Heresy—Don’t Be Duped by Popular, Internet Apologists" also helps expose Jeff Durbin's and James White's confusion related to the heretic Doug Wilson and Federal Vision heresy.


Quotes below are from the blog "On How The Federal Vision Made Me Catholic" (August 27, 2007) ...

"... the ideas of the preachers of the FV (Federal Vision - ed.) movement were largely the ideas that lead me to be accepted into the Catholic Church ... I was, by various circumstances after leaving Moscow (and Doug Wilson's Church-ed.), exposed to the Catholic faith. The Catholic faith provided exactly what I was looking for, dare I say had been primed to look for ... I had been taught for so long to lean on the reality of the sacraments in the FV (Federal Vision - ed.) community ... In the Catholic Church I found the flesh and blood, no pun intended, to the ghost of the truth I had been shown in the FV (Federal Vision - ed.) community ... Some FV (Federal Vision - ed.) communities even go so far as to employ sacramentals like the sign of the Cross and observe the Church calendar to a certain degree ..."

"It is with great comfort that I now rest in the bosom of the true Jerusalem Above, the Mother of us all, the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, and it with a great sense of gratitude to the FV (Federal Vision - ed.) communities, Christ Church and Rev. Wilson in particular for showing me the road of the sacramental life that eventually lead me there."

"And make no mistake in thinking I am a rouge convert, twisting the teachings of the FV (Federal Vision - ed.) to get where I've arrived. The ranks of Catholics from FV (Federal Vision - ed.) origins is growing by the day. Someone recently supposed on Rev. Wilson's blog that the natural destination of the FV (Federal Vision - ed.) was either to complete fragmentation or to Eastern Orthodoxy, but I maintain that, not by a natural progression in their presbyteries but by a grassroots movement among those of my and following generations, will be to the Catholic Church. FV (Federal Vision - ed.) protestants are too hardline to accept the national, transitory character of the Orthodox church. The true home of all Christians and the natural home of FV (Federal Vision - ed.) Christians, both because of their Western nature and their commitment to real truth is the Catholic Church."

-From: FREE REFORMATION RESOURCES REFUTING DOUG WILSON AND THE FEDERAL VISION HERESY (Puritan Books, MP3s, Articles and Debates) and Defending the Classic Protestant Doctrine of Justification by Faith Alone, Through Grace Alone, in Christ Alone.

BOOK REVIEW: "Reformed" is Not Enough by Douglas Wilson reviewed by Drs. Matthew McMahon at "A Puritan's Mind."

This extensive book review contains much more proof that Doug Wilson is not only not Reformed (using the confessional and historic meaning of the word), but that he is also ignorant of many classic Reformation doctrines. Drs. McMahon writes,

Innovation and originality in theology are the parents of all heresy. Douglas Wilson in his book, "Reformed" is Not Enough demonstrates this subtly but effectively. To the untrained eye his arguments may sound cohesive, helpful and clarifying. To the trained eye his arguments are heretical, and his work demonstrates his theological and historical ignorance.

It is this writer's opinion that Wilson has crossed the line from error to heresy based on conceptions propagated at the 2002 Auburn Avenue Pastor's Conference with three others--John Barach, Steve Schlissel and Steve Wilkins, as well as clarifying marks made here in his new book. These four men have been "labeled" the Auburn Four as a result of that conference. Wilson admits in his foreword that he began writing this book before the accusations to him and his colleagues came about by the Covenant Presbytery of the RPCUS in June of 2002. So he has included thoughts about the clarification of his opinion in later chapter (which happen to be some of the most blatant denials of orthodox doctrine in the book) rather than earlier ones.

This review is must reading, as it exposes much false teaching -- and is free online

Jim Dodson Reviews and Recommends the Puritan Hard Drive


If you love the Bible, then you may well be Reformed. If you think of yourself as Reformed, but you have seldom or have never read older Reformed literature, prepare to be challenged. The Puritan Hard Drive provides primary sources and depth of theological and spiritual insight which is lacking in much of what is passed off as genuine Reformed theology. If you think of yourself as conservative, the older Puritan and Reformed authors will help you sort reality from myth in your quest to be truly Reformed. There are more solid resources for less money here than anywhere else. I highly recommend you take responsibility for your soul and spend a few shekels for this cup of cold water in the midst of the modern religious desert.

- Jim Dodson, Reformed Presbyterian Scholar,

The Federal Vision is Still Heresy - Refuting Federal Vision Heretics Like Doug Wilson, James Jordan, Steve Schlissel, Peter Leithart, Rich Lusk, et al.